I reverted to the TWO TIMELINES model.

Hello, X-Maniacs...

Here we go again. This is the last time. This is the definitive one. There's no going back. 

I REVERTED TO THE TWO TIMELINES MODEL.

Of course, all the sections of this website have been rewritten, so check them out!

1- "First Class" is the official origin story of the X-Men. For some reasons, Xavier created a fake story to tell people about his first encounter with Erik. Maybe, Xavier just wanted to hide his involvement with the Cuban Missile Crisis and his deep relationship with the mutant terrorist known as Mystique.

2- Jean Grey is born in 1966. The prologue of "The Last Stand" is set in 1979. She was indeed 12/13.

3- "X-Men Origins" is set in 1983 (as "Apocalypse" in the revised timeline). Emma Silverfox is a clone of Emma Frost. The Quicksilver guy and the Banshee guy were clones as well.

4- "Deadpool" and "Deadpool 2" belong to a different universe, so there's a different Wade Wilson in "Origins".

5- "X-Men" and "X2" are both set in 1999. "The Last Stand" is set in 2000. Aprox. 15 years since "Origins". About the timestamps, we can pretend that 1999 and 2000 were "the future" from the perspective of the "First Class" and "X-Men Origins" worlds.

6- The "Archangel" in "Apocalypse" was NOT Warren Worthington III, but another "Cheyaraphim" mutant. His wings were also different...

7- The Asian girl in "Origins" and "The Last Stand" was Kwannon, not Psylocke.

8- The Moira MacTaggert in "The Last Stand" is FC Moira's niece.

9- Charles Xavier used a NEW serum to walk again and have powers at the very same time, as seen in "Origins" and "The Last Stand". He dropped it after experiencing several collateral damages.

10- The new Cerebro used in X1/X2 was created by Erik, as claimed on-screen.

11- "The Wolverine" is set in 2008. 10 years after X1/X2.

Here we go. Fingers crossed for The New Mutants to be released on April 2020.

Dark Phoenix: some considerations...

I updated all 3 timelines with the new informations we got from DARK PHOENIX.


1- "Dark Phoenix" features the third alien element in the saga (D'Bari). Adamantium comes from an alien substance extrapolated from a meteor, and Apocalypse's special armour and body-swapping equipment/base is obviously alien (Celestial?).

2- In the original timeline(s), the Cosmic Force was orbitating around Earth in 1992, but the "Endeavour" shuttle wasn't there, as well as the X-Men (more specifically, Jean Grey). So presumibly, the Force ignored Earth and kept travelling across galaxies as always. D'Bari people followed it... elsewhere.

3- Hank uses a different (new) serum, because he can convert into Beast without getting "angry", as evinced before the train fight.

4- Mystique is the third X-Man to die in the final timeline, after Banshee and Havok.

5- Vuk must be a "mutant" D'Bari and not a normal D'Bari, because she managed to handle the Force and absorb it from Jean.

6- The helmet Magnet uses is the original one from "First Class", apparently.

7- DP Selene resembles LS Callisto a lot.

8- Beast is the first X-Man to join the Brotherhood of Mutants.

9- The Mutant Containment Camp must have been existing BEFORE the events of "Dark Phoenix". This means that humans STILL secretly feared mutants, despite the X-Men had become national heroes.

10- The KITCHEN where Hank confronted Charles is not the SAME where Charles met Raven for the first time, as claimed. The school has been rebuilt from scratch at the end of "Apocalypse", indeed.

11- In the movie, Raven criticized the use of identical uniforms. Surely she preferred the individual costumes at the very end of "Apocalypse".

12- Raven doesn't display any super-agility feats in either "Apocalypse" and "Dark Phoenix".

13- Beast's make-up in DP was the best out of the 5 Fox movies featuring Beast.

14- The "killing spree" of Nightcrawler is totally IN CHARACTER. First, he already had got his "sin tattoos" by the age of 18-20 (see "Apocalypse"), and this means that rage and other negative aspects are already present in him.
Besides, this version of Nightcrawler has a feral attitude, as evinced in the Danger Room at the end of "Apocalypse", where he growls like an animal.

15- Storm could have kept Apocalypse's power enhacement, after all. The impressive multiple lightning display is very powerful and never shown by any other incarnation of Storm before.

16- Storm apart, codenames are almost never mentioned.

 

"LOGAN" (the movie) is part of Timeline Prime Alpha now...

HELLO X-AFICIONADOS,

 

Yeah, this is a mutant website, always ready to change/alter its theories.

 

"LOGAN" is part of Timeline Prime Alpha, before Sebastian Shaw would travel back in time and create Timeline Prime Beta ("FIRST CLASS", "THE WOLVERINE", dystopian future of "DAYS OF FUTURE PAST").

 

By now, Timeline Prime Alpha is comprised of:

 

1983- X-Men Origins: Wolverine

2004- X-Men

2004 - X2

2005- X-Men: The Last Stand
2029- Logan
2045- Sebastian Shaw departs from the future, his mission: to alter the past.

SEBASTIAN SHAW was a time traveler - "First Class" was a divergence

 

Hello X-Factors,

 

The main X-Men universe (X-Men + Wolverine) has been altered via time travel twice, not just one ("Days of Future Past").

This means that the timeline depicted in "First Class" (1962), "The Wolverine" (2008) and the post-apocalyptic future of "Days of Future Past" (2023) was already a massive divergence from the original, untampered version of history (the X-Men trilogy).

According to my NEW scenario:

Sebastian Shaw (Kevin Bacon) was a time traveler. He was born several years after the events of "The Last Stand", in the original timeline (X-Men Origins: Wolverine; X-Men; X2; The Last Stand).

At a certain point, when he was 50 or so, he traveled back to 1912 A.C. and impacted the timeline over the years in various ways... until creating the Hellfire Club.
He also changed Magneto's life in 1944.

The events of "First Class" were deeply caused by him, as well as having many birthdays shifting in time and characters being born later or before (Angel, Jean Grey).
I guess he influenced many powerful people over the decades, impacting their lives - Warren Worthington II (Angel's father) was among them.

FC Moira was the grandmother of LS Moira, as simple as that.

Emma Frost was already existing. Maybe, in the original timeline, Emma Silverfox was a clone of her who was adopted by Kayla's family (that's it).


So in the end, we got the second timeline:

1962- "X-Men: First Class"
1963- Magneto is arrested
1973- Mystique kills Bolivar Trask
1983- Alternate version of "X-Men Origins: Wolverine"
2000- Alternate version of "X-Men" and "X2"
2001- Alternate version of "X-Men: The Last Stand"
2008- The Wolverine
2023- Post-apocalyptic future of "X-Men: Days of Future Past"

 

The Dark Phoenix is coming! Timelines to be completed.

Hello X-Aficionados,

 

We're all waiting for Dark Phoenix and The New Mutants.

Be careful. I will complete the TIMELINES only when Dark Phoenix, The New Mutants and Deadpool 3/X-Force (?) will be released.

 

At the moment, there are still movies waiting to be correctly placed in the continuity or definitely addressed as "parallel universes":


DEADPOOL/DEADPOOL 2 - We still don't know if these movies belong to either the 2000s of Timeline Sigma or an alternate universe. Having the younger X-Men from 1992 (minus Mystique) appearing on Deadpool 2 did not help at all. Alternate Yukio and the fourth wall-breaking/parody nature of Deadpool and its reality further reinforce the notion that we're experiencing a different continuum in the X-Men live-action multiuniverse.

Besides, Cable's future doesn't match with the new future of Timeline Sigma (2023) or even the dystopian future of Logan (2029).

 

LOGAN - Again, it could be an alternate universe where slightly different versions of X-Men Origins: Wolverine, the original X-Men trilogy and The Wolverine occured. Or maybe it belongs to Timeline Prime Alpha. Fact is, too many details and concepts don't match with the new future (2023) depicted in the end of X-Men: Days of Future Past.

Plus, if Deadpool 2 truly belongs to Timeline Sigma, and Logan belongs to Timeline Sigma too, why Cable's future and Old Man Logan's future don't match each other?

Stay tuned...

New section: Deadpool/Apocalypse Fixes

Hello Mutants,

First of all, I revised all 3 timelines and fixed some dates and mistakes here and there. So please, check them again.

For instance, I articualted the concept of the Zero Event better, as well as revising some birthdays.

Then, I issued a new section of FIXES: DEADPOOL and APOCALYPSE.

I'm also meditating on LOGAN, maybe I will consider it a standalone alternate universe. Stay tuned.

Have a nice day and stay X.

Tiziano Caliendo

Join "FORUM X" - the New X-Men Movie Fan Forum.

Hi, Mutants...

 

If you wanna talk about the X-Men Movie Franchise, I created this forum to gather all former IMDB users genuinely interested into the X-Men cinematic saga. The IMDB message boards will shut down within days.

 

This is it:

 

FORUM X

http://x-menmovies.boards.net/

 

Please, spread the link wherever you can - FB, Twitter and so on. You're invited to join us.

 

Have a nice day..........

 

TC

                                                                     by Alex Ross